OneDrive for Business DOES NOT have a file limit of 20,000

Update – the new sync tool is now available.  Really it is the OneDrive Personal version sync tool now with the ability to add a OneDrive for Business account.  Once you add the account you can do the following…

Right click the tray icon and select Choose folders under your OneDrive for Business account, choose your folders and click OK.  That’s it, the sync tool with only sync your selected files from there on out 🙂


Been noticing a lot of traffic on this post and thought this edit made sense…
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Just found this  Sync Tool Announcement… Looks like a new sync client is on its way 🙂

Thanks to this blog post… Overthinking Blog Post

For pointing this out 🙂

For now I still stand by this, but I’m hoping this Sync tool does give people who really want to sync with a viable tool.
In a lot of cases mapping is the way to go and provides more by way of what people are actually looking for. I helped write a script that automates this and I blogged about it…

Keep in mind things are changing in the cloud on the regular, so tweaks need to be made to the script to account for that. I’ll be presenting on this at Cloud Saturday Atlanta on Sept 26th If you want a lot more detail I recommend you attend.
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Today I ran across this posting about OneDrive for business and while reading through the colorful comments it occurred to me that most of these folks think that there is a 20K file limit in OneDrive for Business.

I thought it warranted a post because A LOT of people seem to have misunderstood this limit. I found some other articles that sort of misunderstood as well, but won’t be posting links here.

Just to say it again the 20,000 item limit is only for syncing, which let’s face it you are never going to need to take 20,000 documents offline between when you will be able to connect to the internet next. You can absolutely store millions of documents, I believe 50 million is the limit, in OneDrive, so don’t let the Sync limit confuse you.

I’ll be the first one to admit there are plenty of issues with Sync and for the love of all that is holy, unless you want to test the limits of your anger and frustration, please do not attempt to use it as a migration tool.

If you want to migrate to OneDrive for Business I recommend using a tool like AvePoint Migrator. If you’d like to know more about OneDrive see the following post.


New Office 365 Look and feel – Logo Issue fix

You may have noticed this morning that the Office 365 Look and feel has changed.  They have moved all of the nav items for OneDrive, Yammer etc into a box that is in the upper left hand corner of the screen.  You may have also noticed that it pushed your custom logo over to the middle of the page, like it did ours below.


If this happened to you, click on the box in the upper left hand corner and click Admin.  Note: you must be an admin to be able to see that Admin app, so pass this onto someone that is if you are not.


From here click on your company name under the settings gear and your image.


This will bring you to a screen that shows you your company profile.  From here click Custom theming.


Under custom logo click remove.  After a few minutes the logo will disappear.  I have to think that MSO will be fixing this soon, but for now this is a way to remove the logo.


Cloud Saturday Chicago Slides

As promised I am posting my slide deck from Cloud Saturday Chicago

Cloud Saturday Chicago

I’ll be speaking at Cloud Saturday Chicago on 1-24-2015.  My session is at 9am.

Creative Cloud Configurations – Hacking your way through the Cloud

Tyler Bithell

Cloud configurations can be tricky and require a level of creativity not traditionally seen in on-premises implementations. This presentation details three projects that underscore some inventive measures required by cloud implementations. In the first project, Azure is used to create a restore rehearsal/disaster recovery failover environment for a complex, multi version SharePoint environment. The second involves creating a hybrid Lync environment and using some tricks to get UCWA to work with Office 365 users. The third is a series of projects for OneDrive provisioning — before and after the API was available. The project covers both OneDrive provisioning and a login script for OneDrive mapping. The move to the clouds requires a new approach to development and configuration that may not always appear to be the most logical or efficient way to do things, but is required in order to get things done. IT professionals are learning this on a daily basis as the cloud becomes a bigger and bigger part of their lives.

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Overview of OneDrive for Business

OneDrive for Business

OneDrive for Business is a feature set that is part of Office 365. The features included in the set are as follows:

A desktop app sync tool

  • This tool is used for syncing files from a user PC to their OneDrive for Business
  • This tool can be installed via the Office 2013 install or a standalone installer. It is built into Windows 8.1, but also available on Windows 7 and 8.
  • When you install and setup the OneDrive desktop app on a Windows PC, a copy of your OneDrive is downloaded to your PC and put in the “OneDrive” folder. This folder is kept in sync with your online OneDrive.  Note this refers to OneDrive not OneDrive for Business.  OneDrive for business is a bit different, once installed, the app just sort of sits until you sync a library at which point it add a favorite in Windows Explorer to that library which now behaves much like any other folder in explorer.
  • This features provides a means by which to sync a user’s OneDrive for business as well as other SharePoint site libraries to the user’s computer up to a 20,000 item limit. It is important to note that both folders and files count toward this limit.  It is also EXTREMELY important to note that you can ONLY sync at the library level, so you’ll want to be creating libraries in your OneDrive for Business vs just adding to the already existing documents.
  • Since you are syncing to SharePoint libraries, you will be protected from overwriting document and potentially losing data provided that versioning is turned on in the SharePoint library. By default the Documents library in OneDrive for Business has versioning turned on.
  • It should be noted that this Sync tool IS NOT a backup tool, does not work much like a backup tool, and can only replace backup tools in very specific cases.

A personal cloud storage location with a data cap of 1 TB

  • This is often used to replace a user’s personal network share.
  • This data is available on a per OneDrive basis, it is not possible to repurpose the data to another one drive or to the Office 365 tenant
  • OneDrive data is separate from Office 365 tenant data and is not transferrable.

A personal SharePoint site

    • This personal site has the same feature set as a typical SharePoint site and can be used much like any other SharePoint site. The user can create list, libraries and additional sites within their own OneDrive for Business.
  • After a user account is deleted or the license is removed that OneDrive, along with all documentation and content within it will be deleted after 14 days. The user’s manager will receive an email alerting them to the impending deletion, so that they can copy any business related information that they might need. It is important to note that the deletion is permanent, and the items will not be moved to a recycle bin.


  • From this screen users can keep track of documents they are following.

Site folders

  • An easy way to access libraries on sites that a user is following.


  • Search allows a user to quickly search for documents within their OneDrive


Content can be shared with people inside your organization, or outside your organization outside sharing depends upon tenant settings. See below for options.


The sharing features are the same as any other SharePoint site except that the only permissions you can grant a user are view or edit.


Yammer Document Conversations

I was talking to a friend from Microsoft the other day, and he told me I should look into Yammer Document Conversations. He thought they could be really useful for a Knowledgebase I am putting together.

I did some digging and found that Microsoft has added Document Conversations to Office Web Apps to further integrate Yammer and Office 365.

The first thing I noticed is that I didn’t have the little yammer icon

on the right portion of my screen. I checked and verified that Yammer was my social tools of choice by navigating to Admin >>> SharePoint >>> settings

I met all the requirements but still no conversations. I submitted a ticket and Microsoft ended up fixing a js issue that was impacting my tenant.

Once that was done I had the Icon to click…


I was then able to navigate to yammer and see this same conversation in my yammer group SharePoint 2013. I’d advise creating a group prior to starting the conversation to give the conversation context.

In the screen shot below I’ve hovered over the document to show the options.

If you click on Go to Page you are brought to the page dedicated to this document conversation.

To me this is a great way to step up document collaboration and we will be using this as often as it makes sense.

Office 365 Drive Mapping for Enterprise Desktops

Last year Tom Gamull and I worked on a script that automatically logs a user into Office 365 and maps drives to their OneDrive for business.  Tom has created a codeplex project for the script that can be linked too below…

Follow this link to view Tom’s blog post about the script.